General Discussion - Impurity Penalties in Smelter Contracts

"Mr. G.C. McKerrow, Assistant Manager of Noranda Mines and formerly Smelter Superintendent attended the meeting to answer questions as to why smelters imposed penalties for too much zinc in a copper concentrate or too much copper in a zinc concentrate, etc.D.W. Bridges -Mattagami Lake MinesWhat limits do you set on zinc and lead in a copper concentrate?G.C. McKerrow - At Noranda, we allow 5% zinc free and charge 25 cents for every unit above that. For lead, it is 1% free and 25 cents per unit above that. Lead is a much more harmful impurity than zinc because it tends to recycle more in the smelter circuit and creates a greater health hazard in the plant.E. Thornton - Sullivan GroupWHat harm does fluorine do in the smelting process?G.C. McKerrow - Fluorine usually does not occur in harmful concentrations in non-ferrous smelters. Fluorides are present in exhaust gases in the aluminum and phosphate industries. If these fumes escape into the atmosphere, they may settle out on forage grasses in concentrations that are harmful to livestock.Thorton - Sullivan GroupI have asked this question other places and have been told that it is hard on brick linings and causes gold and silver to be lost up the stack.G.C. McKerrow - Almost any volatile constituent in a smelter charge will aid in carrying other metal values. To this extent it may be harmful.E. Thornton - Sullivan GroupMr. Tait mentioned before a smelter where they have a copper-tin ore and they pay for copper, tin, bismuth and silver but object strongly to indium in the concentrate. Why would this be?G.G. McKerrow - 1 can't see why indium would be a serious impurity. It does tend to concentrate in flu dusts and if you get enough of it you can recover it and sell it but I have never heard of anyone putting a penalty on it.Question - I once ran into a small copper mine in Peru that had cadmium in the copper concentrate but no zinc. The copper smelter charged a penalty for the cadmium. Why would this be?"